If you haven’t, read Tom Ziller’s analysis of said situation. Read the fellow who runs At the Hive for a Hornets analysis. Zach Harper of CK hasn’t elaborate greatly (in terms of actual analysis and not cursory off the top of the head type thoughts), but I suggest you read that as well. Eventually Hornets247 may have something to say as well.
The deal is a straight swap of Kenny Thomas for Emeka Okafor according to Sam Amick. I don’t think the Kings would even consider adding any other players to this deal because the reason you do this deal (from the Kings vantage) is simply to add Okafor to the core of players you already have. If you’re the Hornets, you’re eliminating just over 53 million in salary obligations for the next 4 years.
From a basketball perspective how does this work?
According to Basketball Reference, Emeka Okafor averaged 13.2 points and 10.1 boards a year ago. Per 36 mins, Okafor is averaging almost 8 defensive boards a night. The Kings have no one, including Kenny Thomas and Jon Brockman, doing that.
I think you can expect defensive rebounding to improve against every NBA team. (It’s already very good as is. The Kings currently rank 8th in overall rebounding, 15th in defensive rebounding, and 2nd in offensive rebounding.)
Additionally, Okafor is a better shot blocker than any of the Kings on the roster, and that would be a help as well.
Post defense is the question, and I think it’s a question of HOW GOOD Okafor would be in defending the bigs out West like a Greg Oden, Andrew Bynum, and what not. One of the knocks on Okafor would be that he can’t defend those type’s of players, and if you cant defend those guys one on one on the interior, it’s going to be very difficult to make the Kings a championship team without someone who can.
Thankfully we have splits, and we can check those numbers.
In the road game vs the Blazers, Okafor scored 18 and had 5 boards. That was the 2nd night of a b2b though, and Charlotte had played the Lakers the night before. (They won that game.) Okafor had 18 & 11 in a 2OT game. (Bynum had 24 & 14 in 7 less min’s on the floor.) In the rematch in March, Okafor had 13 points and 9 boards vs the Lakers who were not playing Bynum in that game. The Blazers against the Bobcats in Charlotte saw Okafor go for 22 & 11.
What strikes me is how steady Okafor is. He doesn’t have very high high’s, or very low low’s, and is pretty consistent. (It’s probably why Larry Brown doesn’t like him.)
Offensively, Okafor is not known for his passing skills. He also has a career FG% of just over 50%, but keep in mind that’s because he had several years well under 45% in his first 2 years in the League. You toss those out, and it’s much more like 53%. The one negative about Okafor is that he can’t shoot FT’s very well, and is a career 59.6% FT shooter. Lots of big men can’t shoot FT’s, and perhaps that’s something Okafor can work on as he comes to a situation where his hitting FT’s could be critical.
Okafor has a few post moves on the block, although nothing special, and has been characterized as a steady double double guy.
I would consider him a solid, very solid even, player who does many things very well, but nothing great.
So why would the Hornets get rid of Okafor when Chris Paul wants to make the team better?
According to John Reid of NOLA, Chris Paul will be out for the next 2 weeks with an ankle sprain. I’m not a doctor, but it sounds to me that Paul’s injury is worse than the Hornets originally advertised. You factor this in with Okafor’s long term, 53 million dollars owed beyond this season, and that’s a tough sell on why you would want to win more games in the interim when a higher draft pick can help you more. Frankly, I think the Hornets want to lose a lot of games to get a pick in what some are projecting to be a big heavy draft.
That would be the reason. You add that to two expiring contracts in Peja Stojakovic (14M), and Morris Peterson (6.3M), and suddenly you have 20M of expiring contracts that could net you a quality player (or two), along with a high draft pick that could rebuild the team. Or, you could let the two contracts expire, and sign someone in Free Agency in 2011.
More flexibility rarely hurts teams, and the Hornets are not in a position to say no to this.
From where I stand, the only holdup here is from the Kings end.
Financially, what does this do to any perspective Free Agents in 2010 or 2011?
This trade doesn’t diminish any prospects of acquiring a superstar Free Agent in 2010. The rub is it may in 2011 with several prominent players who perhaps could become Free Agents in the summer of 2011. I’ll quote TZ here:
I think free agency is a big risk. The best player the Sacramento Kings have ever acquired as a free agent (not including any extensions/re-signings) is Vlade Divac. At the time, the team overpaid for Vlade — he was making All-Star level money despite a reputation as an average starting center with a few special skills. No one (but Geoff Petrie, perhaps) knew how well Divac would mesh with Chris Webber and friends.
Who is No. 2 behind Divac? Bobby Jackson, who at the time of his signing was a three-year vet with a career 8 ppg average? Shareef Abdur-Rahim? John Salmons? The Kings, even when great, have never signed high-level free agents. This is not particularly Sacramento-specific, either: few great players move in unrestricted free agency. This coming summer is a bit of an anomaly that players are even getting to free agency … and it’s still unlikely many of the big names will move.
Yep. Sacramento is not LA, Miami, New York, or Chicago. That isn’t changing. You take risks such as Okafor when the time is right, in my opinion, because you need to take that risk.
The question: Is it time to take the risk? (I’ll put that off for a minute.)
Financially, it definitely changes the outlook of this team for the long term as Okafor instantly becomes the highest paid player on the Kings. You can bet that the Kings would be looking at 55-60 million dollars of salary for the next 2 seasons (10-11 & 11-12), and possibly more than that in 2012-13.
While it’s not necessarily enough to put the Kings into luxury tax, especially when the Kings aren’t even selling out Arco Arena with a fun young team now, it’s going to be difficult for the Maloof’s to justify a massive expense as Okafor.
What I can tell you is that the Maloof’s will be looking at a totally different team by trading Kenny Thomas for Emeka Okafor. This changes the complete financial outlook for a team that has been struggling at the box office, and it changes how the Kings spend money for the next 5-10 years potentially.
Is the time right?
It’s a matter of opinion and faith. If you believe the Kings can contend for a playoff spot THIS season, get better as the next several years go by, and your young core develops along with the acquisition of Okafor, than yes obviously it is. But, if you haven’t noticed, that’s a lot of if’s.
That’s IF Jason Thompson is an All-Star and one of the 10 best big men in the NBA for the next 5 years regardless of price. (Since when price doesn’t matter?)
That’s IF Emeka Okafor fits in with his teammates, and he doesn’t suffer a major catastrophic injury the way Chris Webber did. (I have little fear of a Webber injury with Okafor.)
You also assume that Spencer Hawes gets better as the 3rd big man (as it’s clear he doesn’t have the same level of effect offensively that Jason Thompson has right now) and becomes that great 3rd big every contending team needs.
Another assumption is that Tyreke Evans is in fact a franchise player, and the issue’s surrounding that particular point in of itself.
This isn’t just one move to pick up a very good player with an expensive contract; it’s a paradigm shift in how the Kings will be doing business for the next 5 years. That’s a question that, frankly, I don’t want hinging solely on Emeka Okafor’s contract. I especially don’t want that question hinging on whether Tyreke Evans and Jason Thompson become All-Star/Franchise Level players so quickly into their career’s. The preferable time would to be doing this over the summer. I’m not sure this deal can be achieved over the summer, for several reasons, but mostly because there isn’t any 2011 luxury tax relief for the Hornets by waiting, which is why the Kings are considering doing it now.
What’s the risk of not doing this deal now?
The risk of not doing a deal for Okafor now is several fold.
- New Orleans may change their mind down the road and decide they A) want more for Okafor or B) find a different taker willing to accept their terms of the deal at some point during the season.
- Sacramento may not have a better taker for using Kenny Thomas’ expiring contract as a trade chip.
So what other “ripple” effects are there?
Ripple effects are, by definition, small issue’s that build up to larger one’s as time goes on. The larger this issue becomes in terms of overall effect, the more difficult it is to see the Kings doing this deal.
Consider that Spencer Hawes new contract will come into play starting in the 2011-12 season. Jason Thompson and (possibly) Donte Greene would be in line for a new contract in the 2012-13 season. Tyreke Evans and (possibly) Omri Casspi would be in line for a new contract in the 2013-14 season.
Emeka Okafor has a contract for the next 3 seasons, and a player option in 2013-14 as well. That’s the risk. 38.3 million for the next 3 years, plus the option year with another 14 1/2 million tacked onto that. (Given that the current CBA is not likely to give more flexibility on a new contract, I don’t think it’s likely that Okafor will turn down his option.)
I think the first question that this does for the Kings is how they would negotiate any contract with Spencer Hawes, and then in turn with JT and the others down the road. With the new CBA looming in 2011, the advantage is that you could set a negotiating precedent and claim (rightfully) that you didn’t negotiate Okafor’s contract. I suppose this is one way the Kings could decide to solve the issue in terms of bringing Okafor in.
The other issue’s remain with the other bigger contracts on the roster: Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia, Andres Nocioni, and Beno Udrih.
Of the 4, Martin will be the most valuable, and Udrih may be the most difficult to command return value in a trade. This is especially true in relation to what Garcia does as opposed to what Udrih does. I think it also means that Andres Nocioni may be the most vulnerable to Emeka Okafor’s presence and what Okafor means to the offense. Right now Nocioni is a tough presence who provides a willing, if not steady, presence offensively while not usually creating for others. With Nocioni and Okafor, you would have 2 players with similar skill’s offensively, and Nocioni will be most likely a player you’re looking to move. Because Garcia can handle the ball, and shoot from deep, it may be much easier to fit Garcia long term within the offensive and defensive schematic that the Kings are running.
Nocioni is versatile, but part of his value stems from playing the 4. If he isn’t able to initiate more of the offense with Okafor on the court, suddenly he isn’t as valuable to the Kings. With acquiring Okafor, you’re certainly going to play Hawes more at the 4, and Thompson already is eating 35-40 min’s a night there as is.
Let’s say you acquire Okafor. You’re looking at this kind of depth chart:
C: Okafor, Hawes, Thompson, Brockman, May
PF: Thompson, Hawes, Brockman, May, Nocioni, Greene
SF: Nocioni, Garcia, Casspi, Greene, Evans
SG: Martin, Evans, Garcia, Udrih, Casspi, Greene
PG: Evans, Udrih, Rodriguez, Garcia, Casspi
The only players who arent listed beyond anything other than their primary position is Okafor and Martin. And, who cares given what they do produce? No one in the Orlando Magic organization will ever ask of Dwight Howard to be a PF just so they can play Marcin Gortat 30 min’s a game. That’s stupid. (Bad example I realize. Move on.)
The point here is that Okafor doesn’t necessarily make the team more versatile, but by not being able to play Hawes at one spot, that makes the front line more versatile. And, so on and so forth.
Finally, what are the chances that the Kings will do this deal?
My gut tells me that they won’t do this deal without thinking about this and deliberating about it first. The Hornets don’t play again until Tuesday against the Clippers and the Kings will be hosting the Bulls the same night.
Given that the Hornets are not likely to change their mind within the next 3 days, I think the Kings will be okay in taking some amount of time to deliberate this about first. I’m sure the Kings will make a decision on Monday though, either way.
I think this deal hinges on any number of things that I have very little way of checking or even knowing whether it rings true or not.
I think the first aspect to the Kings doing this deal is that they think Okafor makes them a playoff team this season. Period. Otherwise, what’s the point of taking long term money this early in a season when you’re contending for a playoff berth?
The second aspect is that you think Okafor is what you need to combat the size out West for the next 3 seasons (including this season) to help Hawes & Thompson develop as players.
The third aspect is purely financial: There is no way the Kings can keep the current crop of players together, bring in Emeka Okafor and not expect to be paying luxury tax within 3 years. It’s just not possible with the likelihood of the following:
- Okafor’s contract as part of the team salary
- Extensions for Hawes and Thompson kicking in
- The salary cap for the entire NBA going down for the next 4 seasons
Whatever the reality of the 3 bullet points actually means to the Kings management and ownership, it does mean that time will be needed before making a final decision. Saying “yay” or “nay” in a very short amount of time does not help a team. Looking at any and all options should be discussed. And, knowing Geoff Petrie, they will.
That being said, I think the 4th problem to this deal is how the Kings deal with any basketball lingering issue’s of how Okafor fits into the team, and that how impacts any other SF/SG in this deal. I don’t think the Kings will do this for certain unless they know they can dump Nocioni or Garcia’s contract by next summer. Given the financial difficulties of the team, not to mention playing time, it seems prudent that finding an expiring contract in exchange for either Cisco or Noc at this point.
If the Kings feel that any of the 4 points I just mentioned (Evans/Thompson become All-Star’s/Franchise players), Okafor makes the team better by adding more versatility everywhere else, that after thinking about it hard you believe you have a playoff team, and that you’re confident you can move Garcia/Nocioni for relief at some point, than I think the Kings will do this deal.
What is your opinion of all this?
I have no fucking clue whatsoever. None.
Ideally you would like a player with more talent for the money than Okafor. If that was the case, though, you would not be getting Okafor for Kenny Thomas’ contract.
Ideally you would like to get a top 5 pick and pick a young big man like Cole Aldrich, Derrick Favors, Donatas Motiejunas, Ed Davis among others. The issue here is that if the Kings are attempting to win every game possible this season and make the playoffs (a worthwhile goal), than perhaps Okafor is a major piece in accomplishing such a feat. Additionally, if all those players declare for the draft (pretty likely), than if the Kings don’t have a top 5-10 pick, they’ll likely miss out on all of the aforementioned names.
I do not envy the Maloof’s and Geoff Petrie/basketball staff in making this decision. This is a very difficult proposition that could have immense repercussions down the line. Either way. By not taking Okafor, it could mean that the Kings have punted away an opportunity to make the team better, add a very good player at a slightly inflated price, and underestimated how good Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes really were as players. Plus, with Tyreke Evans around, it may not be the worst thing in the world to try and add someone who can be counted on for consistent production night in and night out.
I don’t know. That’s my final answer. The final grade to a trade of this magnitude will not be answered at the end of this season, or even next season. When the Kings move Okafor, or move on several years down the road past next season, we will know how effective, in hindsight, this trade really was.
Ever want to be a GM? Here’s a good chance to prove how intelligent of an armchair GM you are.

Opening night for the Kings, Tyreke Evans struggled in his initial NBA debut. He was too slow initiating the offense, couldn’t figure out where he wanted to go, and looked very much like the criticism that he couldn’t play the PG in the NBA.
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7 games later, and that criticism seems silly for several reasons. First, there are myriad examples in the history of the NBA where a team without that pure “PG” has gone on to win championships. With the exception of the Bob Cousy/Sam Jones Celtic’s, it’s difficult for me to remember WHEN a team had that player. Isiah Thomas was certainly that kind of player, and the Pistons did win 2 championships. John Stockton is certainly another player in that mold, but the Jazz never won a ring despite Stockton and Malone’s sustained success well into their late 30’s.
Maybe the most famous basketball team of all time, the Chicago Bulls of the late 90’s, didn’t have a pure PG. Neither did the Lakers of the 80’s, but they had some guy named Earvin who always seemed to be making this pass to another guy named James or Byron. The problem was that the Lakers just couldn’t shake this idea that this 6′9 prodigy from Michigan State could handle the basketball and run the basketball team despite his size. Early offense, late offense, it didn’t matter to those Laker teams. They ran over you, around you, under you, in you. All day all ways. You know the names. Byron Scott. James Worthy. Magic Johnson. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Kurt Rambis. Maybe not Kurt Rambis. Maybe more Michael Cooper.
The Celtics in the 80’s had a pure PG. His name was Larry Bird, and the problem was he that he ended up being the most dominant combo F of all time. He just also happened to be the only F in history of basketball to ever average 6 assists a game over a 3 year span. Who were the G’s of the Larry Legend title teams? Tiny Archibald. (Before Danny Ainge and Dennis Johnson got there. What years did Larry Legend get those 6+ assist years? Without Tiny Archibald there.) After Tiny it was Danny Ainge or Dennis Johnson–take your pick– because they brought the ball up the court.
The one team in those early 80’s with a pure PG, some guy named Maurice Cheeks, a tiny combo G bomber named Andrew Toney who every Celtics fan, including Bill Simmons who probably has nightmares about Toney still, does not remember fondly. At one point, the incomparable Moses Malone led the Fo-Fo-Fo Sixers to a title back in good ‘ole ‘83. They also had some guy named Dr. J who managed to defy gravity once by doing his all famous windmill layup. He palms the ball and goes up like he’s dunking, and in the same motion manages to hang long enough to bank the ball off the glass. It is easily the most amazing incredible play you’ll ever see, and yet, it’s quite too often not even realized unless you’re talking about the hallows of greatness. Erving was in his prime, his fantastic prime, on the way to losing another Finals game while eventually watching Magic Johnson, the unpure pure PG, manage 42 points, 16 boards and 12 assists in his rookie year to win the Finals for LA. This, of course, was just the start of Magic’s legend.
If you watch that play in real time, the most amazing thing about it is that it was entirely unexpected. It was a part of the game, a play that only scored 2 points. Yet, you have the NBA making commercials like this many years later:
The irony of course is that you can hear Chick Hearn talking in the background in absolute amazement. (Anyone that has heard Chick knew how much of a NBA fan he was despite the fact he announced for the Lakers.)
Philadelphia goes on to win game 4. Maybe the Sixers don’t win that series, maybe that Finals victory alludes Erving for another 3 years, but Erving has his legend. It’s something that most people can never claim.
I alluded to DJ earlier, but a playoff moment, the playoff moment that includes Larry Bird stealing an Isiah Thomas inbounds pass, shoveling it to Dennis Johnson, a moment that Bill Simmons considers a far more difficult play than can be remembered and said as eloquently as you’ll ever find a Simmons column (he writes the RIP columns impossibly well) about a single subject.
Case in point:
Simmons is right. You hear the call by Johnny Most, you see Isiah Thomas somehow not see Bird sprinting at full speed for 10 steps, but you never see DJ run from half court. Why? Because he was standing casually at the 3 point line waiting to foul anybody who came near him. DJ was a smart player; an impossibly gifted G who shit on you like you were swirling on the toilet bowl when you tried to score on him. Of all the great G’s in history, Dennis Johnson might be the less appreciated because he didn’t play with a pure PG style. Lenny Wilkens knew it; hell Simmons knows it. But, it worked because the teams DJ played on, with John Johnson and Gus Williams in Seattle, Walter Davis in Phoenix, and Danny Ainge and Larry Bird in Boston all worked around it by being incredibly good at either handling and/or passing. (Plus, it’s not like DJ couldn’t handle the ball AT ALL.) DJ’s passing stats aren’t necessarily pedestrian; they’re quite good for a guy who wasn’t that adept at times running the offense. But I’ll give Simmons a chance to redeem himself for a slight error (DJ never took a step past the 3 point line; he’s not a bullet train) in what was a terrific overall point:
Simmons is generally thought of as a Boston homer. To a very real extent, because he’s a C’s, Sox and Pats fan, he will always remain that way. He spent a childhood where the Celtics, the greatest overall franchise in Boston history with a city rich of sports history, were the dominant team, and that’s just the way things were. When the rest of the NBA become the “black” league, Boston had 2 of the most dominant “white” players to ever play the game. Ironically, Boston’s long term fortunes died along with Len Bias. In some ways it would have been far greater for the NBA to have a foil to Michael Jordan; in some ways Jordan’s legend has grown because the ultimate foil didn’t exist. If Jordan doesn’t have a team (other than the Pistons) with that swagger to beat along with championship pedigree, it’s difficult to say what happens. Like most championship teams, they own the day until they no longer can. Nature hates a vacuum; why should winning NBA championships be different?
Either way the point about Simmons is that while he got 1 detail wrong (saying he’s near the half court line is not the same thing as saying he was at the 3 point line, sorry), he did get that DJ’s layup nearly misses. (You can see everything Simmons talks about minus DJ being at the half court line.) Because the ball had so much on it I think that sometimes it doesn’t look like DJ’s layup almost fell off the rim.
Needless to say, regardless of the eulogy Simmons gave, it was a great play on Dennis Johnson’s part. One of many that may, or may not, be remembered much as time goes on. (It was on the NBA’s 4th all time Playoffs play list. I don’t think too many people have forgotten it because of Bird & Most. But, as Simmons says, it’s wrong to forget that DJ made a great play too.)
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You’re probably wondering what this has to do with the Kings, and Tyreke Evans and what he’s done over the last 3 games. One of the reason’s that the whole name “Michael Ray Richardson” freaks me out when connected with Tyreke Evans is because how good Richardson was. As good as Chris Webber has been in the Sacramento era, or even Mitch Richmond, Tyreke may leave both in the dust by the time it’s said & done. He has the talent, and perhaps drive, to get as close to Oscar Robertson as any player could. (I know.) When it comes to players hanging in the rafters, Robertson remains the gold standard for this franchise. Which is saying something, but whatever. Not every NBA franchise can have a “B” team of Hall of Famers like the Lakers or Celtics.
I’m not here to tell you that any comparison with Michael Ray “Sugar” Richardson doesn’t freak me out; Holy god awful shitballs Batman does it ever. But, there are 2 reasons for this.
The first is obvious for any knowledgable basketball fan who remembers the late 70’s & 80’s vividly. Here are the list of G’s who were high impact game changing superstar players: Michael Jordan, Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson are usually the 3 that comes off immediately. When Sugar was at his best, he was right there with all of them. Sugar had Magic’s passing, Isiah’s feistiness, Michael’s penchant to overcome obstacles.
The second is also obvious to any fan who remembers the 80’s as well: Sugar had a bit of an addiction to white powder better known as cocaine. Of the players who’ve gotten suspended for it (Chris Washburn, David Thompson, Walter Davis) and ultimately hounded out of the NBA, or a player like Len Bias who died from using it, it’s clear that Sugar’s life took a different turn.
Unfortunately, I see that in Tyreke Evans too. Make no mistake. Evans is good; lord is he beyond good at this point. I’m just thankful he isn’t part of the NBA at a time where cocaine is as common as afro’s.
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At the end of 8 games, the Kings stand 4-4. The won a single game with Kevin Martin and Tyreke Evans in the lineup. That game, Memphis, was the first of Allen Iverson’s 3 game career with the Blue Bears, also saw the emergence of Beno Udrih as a reasonable player in the rotation.
Beno UdrihWabeno Udrih has been a major cause for the resurgence for the Kings in the last 3 games. It’s true that Evans has averaged 25 6 & 6, but WaBeno has been nearly as important in ways that stats don’t nearly measure as often or as well: Simply put he allows Evans to be comfortable. Evans being comfortable makes him be Dwyane Wade lite at 20 years old.Even Andres Nocioni value to the franchise long term could be questioned in framing it in that who has more value right now: Nocioni or Francisco Garcia? Honestly, it’s a unreasonable to ask right now for any real number of reason’s.
The first is that Garcia is hurt, and nobody should lose stature after how Garcia got hurt. Nobody. The second part is that the question of whether Garcia’s versatile, fiery skill is more important than Nocioni’s fiery toughness with some 3’s and a few layup’s sprinkled in. I have no idea. But, if Noc continues to succeed it makes it reasonable that the Kings may decide to hold onto Nocioni long term and move Garcia once the season ends.
I like both and what they bring. Before the season, I was far more in favor of moving Noc because I thought he would be far easier to move. Now, with Garcia’s injury taking a part of this, I think the organization has a possibility to make a decision on which move will mean more long term. The only move I think I disagree with is that the Kings don’t move one of either. Given the salary situation on the roster, it’s also difficult to justify PT for 6 guys at the SG/SF spots consistently. There just isn’t that much time to go around even when you have a 9 man rotation with at least 5 of those guys being able to play a minimum of 2 spots, and the other 4 able to play 3 spots. It’s a good problem to have. It’s also a problem that needs to be addressed as the Kings move forward.
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Here’s what I know. The Kings have won 3 games in a row. There is considerable question of whether Tyreke Evans can consistently facilitate for other teammates. There is even more considerable question of whether it matters if Omri Casspi can fit a more play making ball handling SF type mold. Or, in the sense that Garcia is part of this equation, do you favor Garcia over Nocioni for this type of reason?
What I know is that history says that special talent will win you games in the NBA because that special talent was unique. Larry Bird was drafted 6th overall in 1978 for those who remember Bird in those times. (That was mostly due to Bird not coming out of Indiana St though. GM’s knew how good he was then.) Special talent requires special circumstances from teams looking for them.
So, while you hear people talk about Tyreke Evans not being a pure PG, or something like that, or even a facilitating PG (a reasonable question given how the Kings have marketed him as that), keep in mind that maybe the answer isn’t to make Tyreke Evans a facilitator, to bring Kevin Martin off the bench, or expect WaBeno Udrih to keep appearing.
Somewhere in the middle ground the Baby Royals exist. Enjoy them while you can. Their innocence won’t be around for much longer.
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